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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on May 13, 2020 14:27:29 GMT
The Studio Albums will be released on 3rd July 2020 where the albums will be pressed on coloured vinyl. It costs £134.99 on udiscovermusic. It’s about time they did something like this. I preordered this straightaway. I am really excited about this. www.udiscovermusic.com/news/abba-studio-albums-box-set/ |
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Post by gazman on May 13, 2020 15:04:41 GMT
Nice for the collectors. It's not for me - I am past that stage of fandom now.
No doubt some people will complain and say 'Same old thing' - but everyone should remember that it is good to have a choice to buy, or to pass it up.
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Post by Michal on May 13, 2020 15:31:48 GMT
Great set even if the choice of colour for ABBA The Album is a bit of a mystery for me. I was on the verge of pre-ordering it too but the price is almost painful, especially with the other releases on the horizon (the Super Trouper set is almost sure to happen this year, which will be about the same price and I can imagine the new songs will be release in myriads of formats).
By the way, I wonder how much limited it will be. Does anyone know?
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Post by foreverfan on May 13, 2020 16:01:46 GMT
Each to their own.. but a complete rip off.....sorry but true....
more money than sense.. but hey.. it’s your life..enjoy for the 100th time in a different format.....😳
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2020 16:15:38 GMT
Great set even if the choice of colour for ABBA The Album is a bit of a mystery for me. I was on the verge of pre-ordering it too but the price is almost painful, especially with the other releases on the horizon (the Super Trouper set is almost sure to happen this year, which will be about the same price and I can imagine the new songs will be release in myriads of formats). By the way, I wonder how much limited it will be. Does anyone know? See www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/abba-the-studio-albums-limited-edition-coloured-vinyl-box-set/#more-158640 for details of how limited it’s alleged to be (750 units for the UK apparently, but that’s not the worldwide limit). Green for The Album is OK - it is at least picking out one of the colours from the artwork. The Super Trouper set should be no where near this expensive, if you mean the coloured vinyl box, which should only be about four singles. I like the singles boxes and as they are a series, I’m kind of sucked into that, but this one I’ll pass on. I’ve never owned a vinyl version of The Album with the white sleeve (only the UK blue one), I’ve never liked it so I don’t plan to get it now! Plus the sleeves will probably be bad scans again. Until they re-create the artwork, vinyl album issues aren’t worth bothering with. Scans at that price are shameless. It seems to be sold out already, so either they are going to end up on eBay at inflated prices, or it’s a clever marketing ploy to suck people in and make them think it’s rare. As with the Voulez-Vous singles box (“extremely limited” when it was anything but), don’t be fooled. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 17:16:53 GMT
Thanks Rubber Ball Man, for posting this thread. It is a wonderful box set for any ABBA fan to own. Unfortunately, I do not have a vinyl record player so that rules out an immediate purchase for me.
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Post by Michal on May 13, 2020 17:31:37 GMT
Alan, I was talking about all Super Trouper-connected releases together, i.e. the half-speed double LP (which, I feel, is a must), the singles boxset (unfortunately I have bought all of the previous sets, so to make the series complete I'm sure I will buy that one as well… or maybe I could sell the others.. problem solved  ) and the picture discs (I love these kind of releases, ahh..) 750 units for UK is not much is it? I don't know how they distribute these limited editions but I guess UK is considered one of the most important markets for ABBA releases… It is still available for pre-order at Scandinavian e-shops. I'm hesitating. It really seems to bring nothing new at all. Does anybody remember how much did The Vinyl Collection cost at the time of release? It's probably much better set but I doubt I paid 160€ for it back then.
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2020 17:34:59 GMT
Thanks Rubber Ball Man, for posting this thread. It is a wonderful box set for any ABBA fan to own. Unfortunately, I do not have a vinyl record player so that rules out an immediate purchase for me. That shouldn’t rule you out! I’ve got loads of vinyl I’ve never played! With something like this that we have probably ten times over, there’s no real need to play it. It’s a luxury item. My vinyl buying tends to go like this: 1 Open the packaging extremely carefully so as not to cause it any damage. 2 Carefully remove the shrink wrap (again so as not to cause it any damage) 3 Inspect it carefully for any damage in transit 4 If there is, send it back for a replacement 5 If there isn’t, marvel at how beautiful it looks. 6 For several days, carefully get it out again and repeat 5 (being increasingly careful at handling so as not to cause any damage - also wash hands beforehand so no sweat or dirt blemishes it). Becomes increasingly more painful as the longer you have it, the less you want it to look anything but perfect. 7 Gradually do 6 less and less until you realise you haven’t looked at it for a year, but by then you’ve repeated the whole process with another luxury vinyl item you don’t need 8 Wonder why you’ve got no storage space left in your house as there’s nothing but vinyl and CD boxed sets everywhere, that you rarely even look at, let alone play as the music is on your phone. |
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Post by Michal on May 13, 2020 17:59:16 GMT
^^ Very well described  I had to smile reading it, especially point 6 - washing hands beforehand.. and I thought I was the only one who does that |
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Post by Michal on May 13, 2020 18:03:03 GMT
By the way.. how do you deal with a situation when somebody else wants to see it (a family member, a friend…)? I'm usually terribly anxious and I force everybody to wash the hands beforehand too. Sometimes they say they'd rather not see it at all |
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2020 18:03:04 GMT
Does anybody remember how much did The Vinyl Collection cost at the time of release? It's probably much better set but I doubt I paid 160€ for it back then. Not sure but there were two versions of it weren’t there? The first one had a bonus vinyl disc of the five non-album A-sides plus five selected b-sides. The later version didn’t have this bonus disc. I don’t own either of them and can’t remember how much they started at, but I’d imagine the earlier one (with having the bonus disc) is more sought-after now. (Yes, you’re right about the Super Trouper ones. All of them together probably would equal the price of this. I don’t tend to bother with the half-speed albums but do get both the coloured vinyl boxes and the picture discs, and with Voulez-Vous I didn’t get that much change from £100). |
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Post by Michal on May 13, 2020 18:08:15 GMT
Does anybody remember how much did The Vinyl Collection cost at the time of release? It's probably much better set but I doubt I paid 160€ for it back then. Not sure but there were two versions of it weren’t there? The first one had a bonus vinyl disc of the five non-album A-sides plus five selected b-sides. The later version didn’t have this bonus disc. I don’t own either of them and can’t remember how much they started at, but I’d imagine the earlier one (with having the bonus disc) is more sought-after now. (Yes, you’re right about the Super Trouper ones. All of them together probably would equal the price of this. I don’t tend to bother with the half-speed albums but do get both the coloured vinyl boxes and the picture discs, and with Voulez-Vous I didn’t get that much change from £100). I have the one with the bonus disc and an extensive booklet (I'm even mentioned in the section listing the ones who pre-ordered it). I'm not aware of the later version. However the one I have is going for 350€ on Discogs at present. |
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2020 18:08:57 GMT
By the way.. how do you deal with a situation when somebody else wants to see it (a family member, a friend…)? I'm usually terribly anxious and I force everybody to wash the hands beforehand too. Sometimes they say they'd rather not see it at all Thankfully not had that issue as no one I know would be interested, but if they were, I’d be very concerned if they didn’t handle them in exactly the same way as I did! As I say, the longer I have it, the worse I am. If it got damaged now I would think “why did I get it out? I’ve had it for six months and no damage and now that’s happened.” It does actually stop me from looking at the damn things more often - I’d rather not bother than risk anything. |
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2020 18:13:21 GMT
I have the one with the bonus disc and an extensive booklet (I'm even mentioned in the section listing the ones who pre-ordered it). I'm not aware of the later version. However the one I have is going for 350€ on Discogs at present. That’s the one in the silver box with the over-familiar 1979 tour photo on isn’t it? The later version is white with no photo. See: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233575620665 |
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Post by HOMETIME on May 13, 2020 19:50:52 GMT
I have to admit that I'm kiiiiinda tempted.... Given that it's coloured vinyl, it more or less ties in with the various singles boxes (which, like Alan, I feel committed to now). I'm a little surprised that they didn't include an extra disc to carry the five non-album A-sides and the B-sides. Even if it had been the arbitrary selection from the last such release. It could have been done on clear or multicoloured vinyl. Also wondering if the next reissue series is a set of picture discs...
I wonder if the Super Trouper singles box might be delayed because of the whole pandemic situation?
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Post by abbafanie on May 13, 2020 20:18:11 GMT
I'm feeling quite proud of myself for not buying this yet...maybe I'm beginning to curb my addiction! The only reason I'm not is because I can't justify buying it...not because I've fallen out of love |
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Post by Michal on May 14, 2020 6:06:07 GMT
I have the one with the bonus disc and an extensive booklet (I'm even mentioned in the section listing the ones who pre-ordered it). I'm not aware of the later version. However the one I have is going for 350€ on Discogs at present. That’s the one in the silver box with the over-familiar 1979 tour photo on isn’t it? The later version is white with no photo. See: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233575620665Yes, that's the one. I've completely forgotten there was this white version out there. Probably because it was of completely no interest… By the way, some time ago we talked about the artwork in the box I have and you were right, the covers are just scans again. Good quality ones, but just scans  I wonder if anyone at Universal really pays attention to what the fans think would be interesting. Overall I think they're doing good job with what they have available (I mean, there would be many very interesting releases if they were allowed to use unreleased recordings, demos, alternate versions etc.) but still it could be much better if they bothered to pay attention to such details. |
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Post by Michal on May 14, 2020 6:16:11 GMT
I have to admit that I'm kiiiiinda tempted.... Given that it's coloured vinyl, it more or less ties in with the various singles boxes (which, like Alan, I feel committed to now). I'm a little surprised that they didn't include an extra disc to carry the five non-album A-sides and the B-sides. Even if it had been the arbitrary selection from the last such release. It could have been done on clear or multicoloured vinyl. Also wondering if the next reissue series is a set of picture discs... I wonder if the Super Trouper singles box might be delayed because of the whole pandemic situation? Yes, I'm tempted too but I'm telling myself all the time: "Calm down, it's just a piece of coloured plastic for inordinate price, nothing more" You're right that it's strange there's no bonus disc or any other "added value". On the other hand it's good for me there isn't, because it would be much harder to restrain myself… I think there's not much effort needed to put out the Super Trouper releases so I don't see a reason for them to be delayed. Maybe if they released the new songs in the autumn, it would be a reason to withhold the reissues of Super Trouper so that there would be not too many releases during a short period... |
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2020 6:34:55 GMT
By the way, some time ago we talked about the artwork in the box I have and you were right, the covers are just scans again. Good quality ones, but just scans I’ve got a modern Ring Ring on vinyl (as it was the only album I hadn’t got in the format - all the others being original UK Epic) and the slight blurriness of the text really bothered me. I think all of the albums apart from the self-titled one use standard, readily available fonts so there really shouldn’t be too much of an issue with recreating artwork. The Japanese did it best with their 2004 CD box. Still scans but they looked really good (admittedly it’s easier to get away with scanning larger vinyl artwork for smaller CD releases). Plus they had to remove all traces of Epic from them (as in all but one case, they were scans of the UK Epic releases). The CD boxes done by Universal in Sweden (Complete Studio Recordings and The Albums) weren’t nearly as good and were far more obvious scans. Recreating artwork wouldn’t be without its problems. The negatives for the original photos used for Waterloo and The Visitors are allegedly lost, hence why modern CD issues use alternate shots (more obvious with The Visitors, but Waterloo as well if you compare the two - one giveaway being that Frida’s left hand has her thumb and fingers slightly closer together in the newer - 2001 and later - issues). |
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Post by Michal on May 14, 2020 18:18:05 GMT
Alas! My resistance lasted mere 24 hours… But the reasons are really serious ones: 1. I found a copy at a local retailer for less than 130€, including free shipping 2. I opted for payment on delivery, which means I won't have to plank down the money for two more months 3. My wife went to town today and spent twice as much on clothes and shoes, so I felt me buying the set was more than justified However, it may all go wrong yet as it's possible they will cancel my order, as it already happened in the past with some strictly limited editions, because we are too small and unimportant country and Universal sometimes doesn't supply this kind of stuff… |
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Post by Michal on May 14, 2020 18:25:18 GMT
By the way, some time ago we talked about the artwork in the box I have and you were right, the covers are just scans again. Good quality ones, but just scans Recreating artwork wouldn’t be without its problems. The negatives for the original photos used for Waterloo and The Visitors are allegedly lost, hence why modern CD issues use alternate shots (more obvious with The Visitors, but Waterloo as well if you compare the two - one giveaway being that Frida’s left hand has her thumb and fingers slightly closer together in the newer - 2001 and later - issues). So you think that's what's holding it back? I for one could live with alternate shots for these two albums. But then it's not really a true recreation of the original sleeve and the whole point is maybe lost, at least for some of the record buyers. And they may think it's too much effort, while the number of people who would buy it in the end is low. |
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Post by HOMETIME on May 14, 2020 19:09:59 GMT
It looks as though the set has sold out on ABBAsite.com, uDiscover and ABBF.nl! Brace yourselves for inflated prices elsewhere.
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2020 21:26:24 GMT
It looks as though the set has sold out on ABBAsite.com, uDiscover and ABBF.nl! Brace yourselves for inflated prices elsewhere. There’s one UK site that apparently isn’t sold out and has it for pre-order at £130, but in case lurkers on here are waiting to pounce, I’m not going to name it. What you see is a lie though. Amazon UK doesn’t have it listed yet but they will. “Sold out” everywhere is an extremely clever marketing ploy, but only if you don’t keep doing it. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me (as the saying goes). |
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Post by HOMETIME on May 14, 2020 22:39:46 GMT
Hmm. It did cross my mind that it might be a marketing ploy. I guess I'll just have to see what Amazon offers.
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Post by abbafun on May 15, 2020 3:12:00 GMT
Let's not get too pessimistic here, as there are right now several sites that still offer pre orders, such as Amazon usa, Amazon jp, Amazon fr, the SDE shop uk, Townsend music uk, JPC de, Rough Trade uk.
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Post by Michal on May 15, 2020 6:08:14 GMT
It's true it's happened many times before - both Happy New Year limited singles were "sold out" in a flash and at least the one from 2019 is still readily available. However, many of the retailers don't know, how many copies they will actually receive and so they stop taking orders early so that they avoid cancelling them later. At least Bengans claim this. I'm not so sure about the official stores like Udiscover though. But maybe even they can't be really certain how many copies they will distribute to retailers around the world, how great the demand will be… hmm but I don't want to be their advocate - they certainly want to make us spend the money.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 15:30:00 GMT
I see that Amazon UK are now Selling the ABBA Coloured Vinyl Box Set - for £145.99.
It is currently at No.7 in their CD's & Vinyl Top 100.
Imagine how well, ABBA would do, if they actually released some New Music?!...
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Post by HOMETIME on May 15, 2020 15:42:04 GMT
Having seen your post, Colin I have just ordered from Amazon.fr. Even including P&P, it is a lot cheaper than the UK price. €141.35 all in - which is £126.06.
Dammit! I caved!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 16:44:51 GMT
Alan, I too, had to chuckle after reading your steps in buying and collecting ABBA box sets. It is indeed a luxury item and I may consider buying the box set in the future. Do you really have to wash your hands every time ? Michal and Tony I hope you enjoy listening to your box sets when you receive them.
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Post by Michal on May 15, 2020 18:55:34 GMT
@edmfio76, I've no intention to play the records from the box, ever, but thank you anyway :-) The prices on Amazon are relatively favourable indeed. Now I'm in doubt if I should not cancel the order at the local retailer, who offers it cheaper but cannot really guarantee its delivery… hmmm, and I thought I have it solved  |
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) and the picture discs (I love these kind of releases, ahh..)
I had to smile reading it, especially point 6 - washing hands beforehand.. and I thought I was the only one who does that 
I wonder if anyone at Universal really pays attention to what the fans think would be interesting. Overall I think they're doing good job with what they have available (I mean, there would be many very interesting releases if they were allowed to use unreleased recordings, demos, alternate versions etc.) but still it could be much better if they bothered to pay attention to such details.
