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Updated versions of More Gold or the Thank You For The Music set?

Neither. More Gold has existed for 31 years so has become an historical compilation. Thank You For The Music worked at the time for the unreleased stuff but not sure it should be resurrected. Much of the stuff on it (aside from the live versions of Slipping Through My Fingers/Me and I which remains exclusive to it) has appeared on other releases.

A deluxe/expanded version of Voyage I think would be the best home for the outtakes. The standard 2001 CD versions of the historical eight albums all contain additional tracks, afterall, and some of those additions are slightly dodgy (Thank You For The Music Doris Day version, anyone?)

So we have one source that says Frida was back in the studio in 2022??
Hopefully that is the case. Stranger things have happened!

I have ALWAYS beleived from the interview Benny gave to icethecite in December 2018, that they needed to record a 3rd song for the shows - that song was Hit by a train. Now we know that they worked on 3 in January 2019 through to September 2019. The other two were Bumblebee and I can be that woman. Neither of those could possibly go into Voyage. An upbeat song, described as dark, beautiful and SO ABBA? Dont forget they didnt do the motion capture until early 2020, by which time Benny had played the 5 songs (including Hit) to the 10 musicians, so clearly he thought it worthy then.

Maybe if sales of the show start to slow, they will revamp set list, and include TACOM, ST and a new song. I could see that happening.

Sorry Johnny no deluxe edition. A fan met and spoke with Benny yesterday. He was very clear....

I had already been to ABBA Voyage three times, but I had never visited the ABBA Museum in Stockholm. This weekend, it finally happened! However, the real highlight was meeting Benny Andersson, Görel Hansen, and Ludwig Andersson yesterday (Saturday, September 13th). They are such kind and remarkable people! Benny took his time, and I even got the chance to ask him some questions about the extra songs recorded for the *Voyage* album. He was very clear about it.

I had always thought there were only two songs that weren’t ready for the *Voyage* project, but Benny explained that there are actually more than two. However, these songs will never be released because they simply aren’t finished, or the band isn’t satisfied with them. There also won’t be a Deluxe version of *Voyage*.

I mentioned to him that many fans would love to see *Just Like That* released, but according to Benny, that will never happen either.

When Benny drove away in his Fiat, he waved at us and honked the horn 😁 HOMETIME,

I believe, it will be sufficient to implement one or some of the now missing hits to revamp the Show, because judging from the audience reaction it is clearly the celebration of the old Hits which gets the audience going, not the showcase of the two Voyage songs.

And IF they try to tease the "old" fans, they will implement a new song in the show which will not be available elsewhere to make sure, that we attend the show and buy tickets :-)

They all work at mono music I think...

It's disheartening indeed. Kudos to Justin for asking relevant and interesting questions though, congratulations on the meet and thanks for sharing your knowledge.

It appears Hit By A Train could almost be the tip of the iceberg. I reckon it's the most advanced one though and I wonder, as such and with it probably being on the way to becoming the new holy grail of unreleased ABBA, if we might hope for it or a snippet of it being played on the radio or on a podcast one time, similarily to Monsieur Monsieur in 1976 or Dream World in 1986. It's probably only really compareable to the latter. Completely unknown ABBA songs (not versions of songs) in full state studio recordings that haven't seen the light of day in any form have always been a scarce thing. From their active career, it's - to my overview - only been Just Like That and I Am The City, both merely until c.1983 (!) when they slipped out, said Dream World until 1986 when it was broadcast and Put On Your White Sombrero and Just A Notion until 1994 when they were released in full or in parts on the TYFTM box set. It would be a first if we really never got to hear at least some of it. Not saying it nevertheless couldn't end this way of course.

Sorry, I thought he was jokingly introducing himself in third person. That leaves the thanks for sharing the knowledge anway.

I would not take Benny's word too seriously. Do you really think that he would reveal any plans to a fan during a chat in front of Mono Music? That's ridiculous. They kept denying Voayge until the day it was officially announced. That of course doesn't mean that something WILL be released but nor the opposite.

As for the unreleased stuff... I don't understand their stubborness. When things like this are being released queenonlinestore.com/collections/queen-1/products/queen-1-super-deluxe-edition-boxset Yes, it's their material and we have no right to demand anything, on the other hand, there is absolutely no reason to withold it, especially when they let Palm describe everything that's in the vaults in detail.

That is a good point Michal. On the other hand we may be clutching at straws! This anniversary year has shown it can be even worse than we ever imagined release wise!

That might be the most depressing post I've ever been tagged in, Justin! That horn honk almost sounds like the jaunty equivalent of a middle finger 

At this point, if we're ever to hear any of these tracks, it looks like our challenge will be to outlive pop's Victor Meldrew - and maybe the other three members of ABBA too. That's if he hasn't put some mean clause in his will, of course. Grrrrr!!!

Exactly! I just don't understand the apparent refusal to consider context. I doubt any artist has ever issued an alternate take or demo or whatever, pitching it as a solid gold classic that is set to storm the charts. Subtitles like "alternate take", "early recording", "working version" are usually understood to be caveats. If anything, they should vindicate the choice to release the familiar, commercial versions. These tracks are footnotes, asides, supporting documentation in the act's history. Benny's beloved Beach Boys issued a digital-only EP of outtakes ahead of a really expansive anthology/box set. I wonder if he heard them, enjoyed the expanded set? 

Can these three mysterious songs - and/or JLT - be worse than Sombrero or the Tonight Matthew I'm Going To Be Doris Day take of TYFTM? 

Sure, but I thought he met them at the Museum. Maybe I missinterpreted that and thought there was a special occasion.
I don't think it is very often that one can meet all three there at the same time.