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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 12:34:28 GMT
Hi, I am considering compiling my Top 100 ABBA Songs. Thanks to Orf, for doing a great job in posting a re-run of The ABBA 2016 Megarate.
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Post by Michal on Oct 29, 2019 19:55:48 GMT
Would you consider doing it here: abbachat.boards.net/thread/838/abba-megarate-2017 ? I don't see a point in starting a new thread about the same thing - I very much doubt people who already participated would do it all over again... Maybe if more people rated the songs there, we could finally have the results?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 11:33:31 GMT
No Michal, I have decided not to after all because of Orf's nasty comments regarding TWTIA ( a song that is very special to me ). I don't like him and wish I had never conversed with him within the forum. Because of his upsetting comments I can't enjoy listening to any ABBA song as I did before I joined this forum. I am very hurt and am leaving the forum. I don't want people to know my favourite ABBA songs. So Michal, I never got the chance to converse with you sadly. Josef and Tony, I will miss interacting with you and thanks for your help and support. Take care. Edmund.
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 30, 2019 14:56:14 GMT
Hi Edmund. If it's important to you that everyone else says only nice things about your favourite song, then a discussion forum might not be an entirely happy or healthy place for you. However, I hope you take some time to reflect, and recognize that it nobody else's responsibility to cherish your favourite song as much as you do. It's great that you love TWTIA so passionately. Enjoy it, revel in its beauty. But it's unfair to demand that someone who doesn't love it as much should not express their equally valid opinion. I like TWTIA, but it probably wouldn't make my top 10 - and we get on alright, yes? I really like Super Trouper, but your very candidly expressed distaste for it has not caused an argument.
Maybe just take a little time off the forum and regroup. I'm sure you'll see that everyone's opinion is equally valid and appreciated - and nobody has to agree with everything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 17:29:00 GMT
Tony, I think I am too senstive and maybe the forum isn't the best place for me. Thank you for your advice.
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 30, 2019 17:51:26 GMT
Maybe so. Could this be an episode that might pass with a little time away? But it's true that forums don't suit everybody, so do what you need to do.
Here's a suggestion... If the rough and tumble of a discussion forum is not good for you, and you'd still like some kind of outlet, would you consider writing your own blog about your love for ABBA music (and/or indeed anything else!). You could disable comments so that unwelcome external stimuli are kept at bay.
Anyway, the important thing is to look after your physical and mental health. Treat yourself kindly. We'll see you if/when you're ready.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 18:04:33 GMT
Thank you. I really appreciate your advice. To write my own blog is an excellent idea. I will consider it. You never know I could be another " Carl Magnus Palm " in the making ! Once again, Tony, thank you.
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Post by chron on Oct 30, 2019 20:28:51 GMT
I'm truly sorry I hurt your feelings, Edmund. I guess I'm used to some of the 'old hands' from the older forum(s) putting up with my 'troubled relationship' with The Winner Takes It All. I hope you have a longer think about this and decide that it isn't something worth quitting the forum over. As Hometime suggests though, a forum is always going to be a place where you're going to come up against opinions that differ from your own, and sometimes strongly so, because a place like this depends on a healthy injection of contrasting viewpoints to give it life and make it worth coming back to. You're going to have to accept that differing value judgements are always going to be part-and-parcel of the back-and-forth. I can't promise that I'll never say anything negative about TWTIA again, but what I can try to do is bear in mind how strongly you feel about that particular song, and try to make what comments I post a bit less 'salty' and a little more diplomatically worded (not saying I'll be able to succeed, and 'salty' will always be in the eye of the beholder, but I will try!). Hope you can accept my apology, and will decide to continue visiting and posting here.
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Post by josef on Oct 30, 2019 23:09:17 GMT
It would be a shame if you left, Edmund, but you must do what you need to do. I understand you are a sensitive soul. I am, too. I'd like it if you could understand that likes/dislikes aren't personal. We are a little group here and I think we mostly all get along well generally, don't we? There's no serious bad feeling, as far as I'm aware. I love the forum format, it suits me. Perhaps it isn't right for you? Especially as it clearly upsets you if someone has an opinion you don't share.
I hope this forum never folds as I'm not a massive fan of Facebook, etc.
Perhaps do as Tony suggested and blog? You could write out all your thoughts and take time composing them and put in all your thoughts and emotions regarding the songs. Many fans will agree with you and share the same favourites! As you know, I love The Winner Takes It All, too, so I concentrate on that shared passion we have and don't focus too much on how negative you are about Super Trouper, a song I also love. You see? I'm not upset with you that you dislike Super Trouper, not at all - I accept that we all have our (sometimes passionate), likes and dislikes.
Anyway, if you go for good then I wish you all the best but if you decide to pop back sometime in the future then it would be great to read your top 100!
Take care of yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 23:17:44 GMT
Orf, there is no need to apologise. I suffer from anxiety issues and can be a constant battle quite often for me thus increasing my sensitivity to criticism. I'm a fine one to talk as I dislike " Super Trouper " because for me it is too " Europop " yet it may be a favourite of other fans and I try to be diplomatic about my dismissal of it just as you with TWTIA. There are some fans that quite openly dislike DQ and strangely enough that doesn't bother me. However TWTIA, MO and IIWFTN are my personal favourites and there are times when maybe I am little too over protective of these songs. I accept and understand that TWTIA isn't a favourite of yours and maybe that is a good thing as it would be very boring if we all liked the same songs. A conflict of interests can be quite exciting among us ABBA fans. Please accept my apology for firing on all cylinders !
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Post by angela on Oct 31, 2019 0:10:01 GMT
Edmund I like "The Winner takes it all" I have my favourite ABBA songs and some least favourites my favourites are "Rock Me' because it was one of the first songs I heard, and I like "Thank you for the music" "Does your Mother know" "SOS" they do change sometimes. I have Depression which is one reason for me to come on this forum to be with other ABBA fans all over the world, and to forget about things I'm going through at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 18:00:07 GMT
Josef, thank you very much for your kind comments. I am quite touched. What I am going to do is to take a break from the forum for a couple of months or so to toughen myself up and re-charge " my batteries ". I must have been at a low ebb and again took criticism too personally. It is a good thing that we all have our favourite ABBA songs and a conflict of interests is what the forum needs. I, too, love expressing my views on this forum and neither do I want it to close. I will be back and maybe will compile my ABBA Top 100. Josef and Tony, take care. Edmund.
Angela, I am truly sorry that you are suffering from depression. I have bouts now and again and it isn't pleasant feeling that ominous black cloud hanging over you. I hope you overcome it. Take care. Edmund.
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Post by Zeebee on Oct 31, 2019 20:58:02 GMT
Edmund, I'm glad to see that you've decided to just take a break from the forum rather than leave the forum. Perhaps you need treatment for your anxiety. In any case, I wish you the best.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Nov 2, 2019 16:25:35 GMT
Would you consider doing it here: abbachat.boards.net/thread/838/abba-megarate-2017 ? I don't see a point in starting a new thread about the same thing - I very much doubt people who already participated would do it all over again... Maybe if more people rated the songs there, we could finally have the results? We could have a new megarate thread. I think the 2017 one’s a bit of a mess tbh.
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Post by chron on Nov 2, 2019 19:22:46 GMT
Looking at that 2017 one, it doesn't follow the Megarate formula at all, really, it seems to be just posted lists of tracks with grade marks. The thing that drove the 2016 Megarate is that the lists of scores were submitted to Ginger Spice in secret, and that he collated them and worked-out a mean score for them and then built the countdown based on these averaged-out scores. People could speculate and guess on the outcome, but no one except GS knew what it was before it was 'published'.
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Post by Alan on Nov 2, 2019 20:04:56 GMT
What happened to Gingerspice? He’s not on here under a different name is he? He contributed a lot to that forum. Amazed that you managed to retrieve that topic from it.
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Post by chron on Nov 2, 2019 21:16:02 GMT
He joined under the same name, but his account has been inactive for a year and a half.
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Post by josef on Nov 3, 2019 11:41:24 GMT
I remember the name ginger spice, but nothing else apart from the list thing. I do hope they're alright? Hopefully, he's just getting on with living life!
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Post by Zeebee on Nov 4, 2019 21:57:38 GMT
He joined under the same name, but his account has been inactive for a year and a half. What Orf means is that Ginger Spice just hasn't logged in for a long time. Neither Roxy nor I have inactivated his account.
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