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Post by foreverfan on Feb 10, 2019 17:47:08 GMT
Well believe it or not there are several counties that have already selected their entry for Tel Aviv in Israel.. so so far only one stands out , but far to early to call.. Italy, again different surprisingly a catchy bit that will stand out.... UK , dire power ballad, again bottom half of the right hand side i.e. 24th... but with 3 months to go and 34 counties to select... its far to early to really start predicting.. but let the fun begin...  |
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Post by foreverfan on Mar 10, 2019 9:07:15 GMT
All 41 counties have now released their songs...
Among the Favourites are... The Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Italy, Russia,Cyprus, Azerbaijan..all are pretty good in there own way..
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Post by foreverfan on Apr 26, 2019 15:31:56 GMT
With about 3 weeks to go, the favourites are the same as before, in the odds stakes Netherlands is a huge favourite way ahead of all other rivals. In the fan clubs states OGAE, Switzerland, Netherlands and Italy, are firm favourites, with the likes of Sweden, Cyprus, Russia, Azerbaijan , Norway, Iceland and Greece amongst the other runners....
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 15:15:03 GMT
First semi-final yesterday. ABBA got a quick mention.
A very good show - great stage, great postcards. A few dud songs, most of which got winnowed away by the voting. Not Slovenia, though, which was dire. Sad to see Poland crash out. San Marino somehow survived, despite clearly thinking it was still 1972.
Australia look set to win on Saturday, I reckon. Classy stuff, clever staging.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 14:22:50 GMT
Hi. If you don't already know it is Eurovision tonight. I suppose I will be watching but it doesn't thrill or excite me as it used to. All the acts are over the top. None of them stand out if you know what I mean. ABBA of course after winning with Waterloo in Brighton 1974 went on to achieve enormous global success and super stardom. However I have noticed that during the last few years this fact seems to irritate Eurovision fans I don't know why. ABBA are in a league of their own and no other Eurovision act past or present can or will ever better them. A lot of the acts are in fact rubbish. I think there was a special Eurovision kind of discussion show hosted by Mel Giedroyc last year and when ABBA were mentioned as the best Eurovision act some members of the audience quoted do we have to talk about ABBA all the time. The answer is yes, they played an important part in Eurovision, they defined pop music and re-invented themselves after every album they recorded. All the other acts will never emulate their huge success and evergreen appeal. Some people are sad and deliberately add fire to the fuel so as to spoil the fun. Because they are Swedish and as big as the The Beatles will never go down well. I am sorry to say this but The Beatles and Robbie Williams are over-rated. I'll probably start World War III by stating this but I don't care. When I was a child and listening to the radio (before ABBA were on the scene) I would prefer The Carpenters to The Beatles. Karen Carpenter has such a beautiful and recognisible voice and I was hooked every time which is more than I can say for The Beatles. Their music just passed me by. In one ear and out the other. And then of course ABBA began to make an impact and boy did they. I was hooked with every song. Enjoy Eurovision tonight !
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Post by madonnabba on May 19, 2019 7:10:24 GMT
Winning song rather boring . Was hoping Norway, Sweden , Switzerland or Australia would win. Not sure if it’s worth the Uk even putting an entry forward. 3 points rather mean. Recent winners don’t dent the Uk or USA charts....think Waterloo is the only Eurovision winner to hit the USA top 10 . Not sure if any other winning song has even made the top 40. And last night’s winner unlikely to trouble the charts there. Apparently it’s a hit in Europe though. Given the political voting think Uk should pull out and withdraw funding for a few years . Italy did for a few years , came back and have been doing well since. The Greece/Cyprus 12 points consistently to each other is becoming tedious. The professional jury do not appear to be impartial. The cliff hanger finish was overdone last night. Surprised Madonna agreed to appear. Would have preferred a melody of her biggest hits. Does anyone know why only the Uk voters were not permitted to text?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 12:02:37 GMT
I watched Eurovision from start to finish and must concur I wasn't impressed with any of the acts. None of them were outstanding and I felt the contest was prolonged with the very bizarre voting. I do not like Madonna at all. She is over-rated and a bit past it. Time to retire for the so-called "Queen of Pop". Graham Norton was very annoying almost on repeat mode with his commentary regarding the UK entry. What do you expect ? One word utter drivel. I also thought he bore some grudge against Sweden. Never mentioned that ABBA had won in 1974 ( 45 years ago). Thank goodness ABBA were honoured during the show. All in all the contest was a bore. Iceland should not have received any votes as their song was glorifying hatred and violence which is the last thing we want in this already violent and disturbed world.
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Post by foreverfan on May 21, 2019 8:49:11 GMT
Alas it wasn't a great competition, and although it was " nice" to see Netherlands win, in my opinion, not a great song, just ok. It's already a been a huge hit over Europe as was Italy's, so that may have had some influence. I'm always amazed how nothing really reaches the UK, it's as if we are the forgotten country when it comes to European releases and may be a factor in us doing dismally. I agree to a point even if we were to send someone like Adele, etc they would struggle To get a top 10 placing..
Politics will always play its part, and we are not popular to say the least, with only Ireland giving us 3 points in the public voting... so we truly need to re think this, we spend a lot of money on EBU, for very little in return apart from 4 hours of TV.. Ok we shouldn't
be babies and throw our dummies out of the pram but we really do need to do something, otherwise ...what's the point...
I liked the new voting procedures, and the Classic look of disappointment on Swedens face as they only got 93 points was special to say the least, when they must of thought they had won.. only to finish 6th.
Madonna.. oh dear.. anti climax... she's out believed herself..she can't do it anymore and she's only 60 thinking she's 20... err not.
Take note Madonna, use the ABBA girls as a role model....
So onto probably Amsterdam.. we have 12months to get it right.... unlikely....😢
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 14:28:20 GMT
Thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed the show, as always (it's my Christmas!), but the overall song standard wasn't great this year. It happens. Verka Serduchka was epic interval entertainment and the postcards (especially Russia's, legging it along the Jerusalem city walls - blimey!) were possibly the best ever.
Will definitely be going next year. I wonder whether they'll sidestep Amsterdam (it'll be the tailend of bulb season anyway) and push the economic boost and human influx somewhere else. Maybe the Ahoy in Rotterdam or (my preferred option) Jaarbeurs in Utrecht (though it'll need some work/creativity).
As for the UK, as long as they don't go off in a huff I don't care. Maybe announce a three-year moratorium to enable a rethink/reboot and plan for a return in 2022, say. As someone mentioned above, Italy have come back stronger since their hiatus. This year's song was a belter.
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Post by foreverfan on May 21, 2019 15:52:04 GMT
Like you^^^ for everything that seems wrong about the Eurovision, I love it, and look forward every year, really from January onwards.. sad as it sounds, we all have a weakness😂
I just thought apart from a handful of songs the standard wasn't that good this year...
but really like the voting now, as you couldn't predict who's going to win until literally the last two set of votes were cast, then the utter deflation of Sweden was priceless in his face...
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 17:12:10 GMT
It looks like none of the 2019 ESC Entries will be entering the UK Top 40. Two Entries spent about 3 days in the UK iTunes
Top 10. The Netherlands Entry Peaked at No.4, and is now out of the Top 10. The Norwegian Entry Peaked at No.5 and that
is now almost out of the Top 10 - at No.10. The days are long gone when the UK almost always put the UK Entry and the
Winning Entry, in the Top 20 of our Singles Chart. The Music no longer has close to the quality that it once had and the
UK is no longer much interested in our own Entries, let alone in anyone else's.
I just 'Tune-In' for The Voting, but even that is a struggle for me to watch, as these days, you get so many Vote Presenters
showing off and putting on, 'Look at me!' behaviour, instead of simply getting on with it and giving out the Scores. It is very
boring and I cannot bear people who show off all the time. Attention seeking gone too far...
I used to be addicted to The ESC. It means very little to me, these days. As usual our Entry in 2019, was not a great Song.
Some say that the BBC makes sure that the UK only sends average Songs to enter, because they don't want the expense
of staging the Contest, the next Year. So, even the Songs that the UK Votes to send, are first chosen by the BBC - to make
sure that the choices are not great to begin with...
THE ESC ENTRIES IN THE UK TOP 100 OF THE TUESDAY SINGLES CHART UP-DATE -- MONDAY'S PLACES IN BRACKETS
53... Norway... (Up from 66 on Monday)
63... The Netherlands... (Up from 77 on Monday)
83... Italy... (New Entry)
98... Switzerland... (New Entry)
99... United Kingdom... (Up from 100 on Monday)
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 17:45:08 GMT
but really like the voting now, as you couldn't predict who's going to win until literally the last two set of votes were cast, then the utter deflation of Sweden was priceless in his face... Spot on! Hilarious! Mind you, someone's going to have a full-blown fit one of these years waiting for the final score. For me, the voting is an integral component of the evening. I love keeping an eye out for former Eurovision artistes announcing the scores, announcers who go 'off piste' or are under the delusion that they're the evening's star-turn etc etc etc. Unmissable TV! It's all in the eye (ear) of the beholder but I don't remotely agree that the standard of songs has slipped in recent years. Watch a whole Eurovision on YouTube from the '70s, '80s or especially the '90s and you'll see what I mean. Great viewing but huge swathes of dross, punctuated by a few bright spots and the very occasional classic. For my money - and I'm speaking as someone who first started watching the ESC in the 1970s and hasn't missed one since 1980 - the peak year was probably 2015 (in Vienna). Brilliant show/staging, lots of cracking songs and an epic, anthemic winner buoyed by ground-breaking presentation. I'd need a lot of convincing that chart positions are an accurate bellwether of the specific quality of a multidimensional event like Eurovision. |
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Post by foreverfan on May 23, 2019 7:38:24 GMT
Scandal at Eurovision....😮
Belarus broke the rules...🙄
Points re allocated....🤔
No change at the top 3🤗
Sweden rises to 5th🤔
Norway drops to 6th😢
San Marino rises to 19th🎉
UK gets even less and still finishes bottom with 11 points😱
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 11:28:25 GMT
Blimey - good job it didn't affect the winner! I'm all for a few shenanigans to keep things interesting but they really do need to ensure a watertight result. Can you imagine if Eurovision ever got like the Olympics with all their retrospective reallocation of medals years after the event? Imagine if there were a sudden announcement that information had just come to light that meant the actual winner in 1974 should have been Mouth & MacNeal? Would I have to give all my ABBA records back???
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Post by josef on May 23, 2019 14:05:12 GMT
I watched it with a friend who's mad about Eurovision and has every song that's ever participated in it downloaded. That's hardcore! 😆
I thought 'our' song was dreary and forgettable and the singer devoid of charisma or stage presence. Why on earth was it submitted in the first place?! It's no surprise to me it came bottom. Utterly pointless.
Highlight for me was the fit man singing for Azerbaijan. The Australian entry was bonkers and in the spirit of the competition. The UK entry was devoid of FUN.
Madonna singing hopelessly out of tune was another highlight. Love her, but she'd have been better off with a cup of cocoa and an early night.
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Post by foreverfan on May 23, 2019 16:05:51 GMT
Glad to see your still around ^^^ I know there's not a lot going, but we hang on in there, in eternal hope...which hopefully draws nearer....
Have to agree about Azerbaijan.. in every way... it should have done better and possibly won.. very contemporary and easily heard on Radio. To political ??
Cant see any of them now hitting the charts, a few in mid week's, but by tomorrow probably all fallen away...
I remember in the UK qualifiers , it wasn't different enough, far to safe and boring... also no offence.. not exactly eye candy either😮
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Post by josef on May 23, 2019 19:01:11 GMT
Cheers Graham. Yep, I'm still alive and just about kicking.
I've never really been a Eurovision fan, despite it making stars of our ABBA. But I have to admit I enjoyed it the other night. Perhaps it was because I was with a friend and had a laugh.
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Post by Zeebee on May 23, 2019 20:39:22 GMT
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Post by josef on May 23, 2019 22:15:40 GMT
The Belarussian entry apparently was selected through an unfair process because her father is a producer with links to the President of Belarus.
Something along those lines.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 1:46:18 GMT
Madonna's 9 Minutes+ Eurovision 'performance' has now been uploaded to her You Tube Channel.
There is a crucial difference. She and her Record Company have ensured that the vocals have been
messed about with, in the Studio. To make her 'performance' sound better than it really was. Many
people are commenting on the You Tube Video, asking how stupid does Madonna think we are, that
we are supposed to think that the 'performance' vocals are exactly the same as they were at Eurovision...
Thank goodness that The ABBAtars were not ready in time for Eurovision. ABBA may have been tempted to
reveal them to 'The World' there, and if anything had gone wrong with The ABBAtars, or if the New Songs
were not very good, the Global Media would have torn ABBA's reputation apart. Instead, it is Madonna who
has made a mess of her ESC 'performance'...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 6:43:52 GMT
A miracle of biblical proportions, appropriately enough:
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Post by foreverfan on May 24, 2019 16:49:50 GMT
A surprise 3 hits from Eurovision in the official U.K. Top 75 singles chart...
61.. Norway.. 6th
67.. Netherlands..1st
73.. Italy..2nd
Italy being the big surprise, as not a single vote tele or jury from the UK in the actual contest..
To add total humiliation.. UK entry doesn't make the Top 100.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 17:49:39 GMT
Graham -- Remember, in 1974 the UK gave Zero Points to ABBA and 'Waterloo' went all the way to
No.1 in the UK, despite that...
UK 'Chart Expert', Alan Jones says that the UK Entry came 24th, but I thought that last place was 26th?
Here is what Alan says, in today's UK Chart Commentary:
"Three songs from Eurovision made the Top 75 last year – Israeli winner Netta’s Toy (No.49), UK entry SuRie’s Storm (No.50) and Cypriot entry Eleni Foureira’s Fuego (No.64). In the wake of this year’s competition in Tel Aviv, UK entrant Michael Rice – who finished in 24th place – fails to chart with Bigger Than Us (4,299 sales) but once again there’s a trio of modest chart entries, specifically Norway’s sixth-placed Spirit In The Sky (No.61, 8,834 sales) by Keiino, Dutch winner Arcade (No.67, 8,202 sales) by Duncan Laurence and Italian runner-up Soldi (No.73, 7,291 sales) by Mahmood".
In 1995, the 1976 ESC Winners, Brotherhood Of Man, released a 'Gold' CD. It had 14 Tracks and only 6 were original Songs. The rest were Covers.
Now they've released a 3 CD, 60 Track Box Set called 'Gold'. No less than 34 of its Tracks are Covers, including 2 ABBA Songs. 'Dancing Queen',
which they call 'Dancin' Queen' and 'Lay All Your Love On Me'. They could have put far, far more of their own Songs on it, and even their Fans
don't like the 3 CD 'Gold'. It has only done this in the UK - No.29 - No.48.
in the meantime, 'ABBA Gold' is at No.37, in the latest UK Album Chart. Its 283rd Top 40 Week, 612th Top 75 Week and 890th Top 100 Week...
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Post by Zeebee on May 25, 2019 19:37:20 GMT
The Belarussian entry apparently was selected through an unfair process because her father is a producer with links to the President of Belarus. Something along those lines. Interesting. In that case, the Belarussian entry should've been disqualified. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 20:37:32 GMT
No -- The Belarussian ESC Jury was disqualified because they revealed their Semi Final Votes to a 'Publication'.
That broke ESC Rules and cost them their ESC Final Votes.
As usual, (these days), it looks like the ESC will be a 'One Week Wonder' in the UK. A tiny number of Entries got
very low UK Singles Chart places. Then - in Week 2 - they are all gone from the Top 100. It is then a 'dead topic',
until the 2020 Contest. Really it is just an excuse for 'Eurovision Parties', on the night that it is on. Then it rapidly
fades away. I used to be addicted to it. I now see it as pointless. (As do more and more UK people, each Year).
I wonder how many more Years the Pro-ESC UK Fans will be able to carry on watching it on UK TV? The excuse
that it is, 'All a bit of entertaining fun', means less and less each Year. It adds Zero to UK Culture and certainly
nothing to UK Music. Even with most 'Modern' Music being awful, the UK still has no wish to replace it with the
here today, gone tomorrow nonsense from the ESC. The days of ABBA etc. may as well be 10,000 Years ago...
As many people have pointed out, the 2019 Winner sounds like it should be a Coldplay Album Track...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 8:11:18 GMT
I can only speak personally, of course, but I'd be quite content for the ESC not to be shown on a UK channel - lots of other live feeds available these days. I prefer them for the semi-finals anyway, as the BBC's coverage is a bit of a cringe (Rylan Clark Neal excepted). At least then we could, once and for all, lance the whining and bleating that the ESC seems to prompt in the UK on a tiresome annual basis. Last year, I got involved in a radio 'debate' with an ex-UKIP councillor who had a massive hang-up about the ESC. Boy, listening to her 'views' was excruciating and answering her 'points' (i.e. hang-ups) politely took some effort! The ESC generally acts as a lightning rod for many and varied forms of angst that its multifarious 'opponents'/critics seem to have (mix-and-match moans about Europe, the modern world, modern music and/or diverse other gripes). Their TVs obviously haven't got an 'off' button. Amazing. Having said all that, while the viewing figures stay so healthy and it provides so many hours of cost-effective TV, I can't see the BBC stepping away from the ESC any time soon.
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