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Post by foreverfan on Jan 16, 2018 17:29:21 GMT
Just for fun on these cold dreary January days....
Whats that ABBA/related track, you like but have not listened to in ages, and wonder why not...
for me by accident,trawling you tube... is Dreamworld, a track in the great scheme of things is relatively " new" compared to everything else, coming out years after it was made.
Im not really sure why I like it, always have, because it was new ? It's upbeat, fun, because it's not on any initial release album? and is over looked?
ill probably play it to death now, and forget about it again for a year, until the next time.
whats your forgotten like ?
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Post by jsdyson on Jan 16, 2018 18:42:40 GMT
Interesting that you mention 'Dreamworld.' I have a damaged copy of it only -- nothing really very clean, and have been working on cleaning up my copy (electronically.) I really do enjoy that song -- refreshing like there is indeed a new ABBA song. I just had some more ideas about removing some more of the damage from the copy that I have, and might give them a try tonight. Take a look at my other postings, and on my repo site I have my latest copy so far. I just thought about some more things to do last night -- the current version still has too much HF compression and I know that I can mitigate most of that, just don't know how much I can improve it.
Dreamworld is a really nice, pretty song. Wish/hope they can find some more jewels like that in their archives.
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Post by Fafner on Jan 16, 2018 18:50:11 GMT
jsdyson, Do you have the Voulez-Vous deluxe edition? It has a good sounding and clean version of Dreamworld.
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Post by jsdyson on Jan 16, 2018 19:15:14 GMT
No -- I don't have the Voulez-vous deluxe edition, but will look again through all of my archives (I have many, many versions -- but will look them up again to see what I can find.) On the other hand, I have turned the restoration processor up to 20 (on a scale of 1-10), and posted the new version. It is pretty good, except still has some HF problems, and I pushed it a little farther than the algorithms are written to support. The voice has been cleaned up to be almost transparent. It is a WONDERFUL song, right up there with Cassandra. The new version is in the repo below -- DreamworldCleanNew.mp3, and I am going to search around again (I have probably 50GB of ABBA stuff.) spaces.hightail.com/space/pG4t4ZFnyBGOOD NEWS -- follow-on, I did find a copy of Dreamworld in my archives. When listening to it -- I think that it comes from the same place as my copy, but they have done a pretty artful job of minimizing the HF smearing -- it still has the smearing and is (like alot of ABBA stuff) hyper-compressed. I suspect that there are better copies out there than what I have. Since I now know what at least one copy of cleaned-up Dreamworld sounds like, I think that I can re-equalize my copy and avoid the hyper compression that I have on the copy that I just found. I am going to work on it -- nice little project. John |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 21:08:22 GMT
I've always liked Dream World a lot ever since I heard it for the first time. In fact, it's among the ones I listen to the most. It's certainly superior to Does You Mother Know, which cannibalized it.
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Post by jsdyson on Jan 16, 2018 22:51:43 GMT
I worked REALLY hard on Dreamworld for the last hour. The version that I started with was passed through DolbyA HF emphasis (or severe compression with HF emphasis) too many times, so I had to run multiple decoding passes. Plus, I ran the restoration processor to get some of the transients back. It still isn't perfect, but is better than the original that I started with, better than the version that I found deep in my archives -- but NOT perfect by far. Please enjoy -- the filename is "DreamworldCleanBest.mp3". I am not claiming that it is the best possible, but is the best that I could do for right now. It might have required another pass of DolbyA and less lowpass filtering. As it is, I still added slight eq boost at 6.5kHz, and a low pass filter (one pole) at 9k -- which maintains the 'sses' fairly strongly while getting rid of the harsh HF.
John
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Post by jsdyson on Jan 18, 2018 14:54:20 GMT
Really good news -- my site as described above has a much better copy of Dreamworld. I found the correct settings on the processor to get it to REALLY clean up Dreamworld. It required no magical multi-pass operations, and I got the processor to adapt automatically (after specifying a higher/faster expansion mode) to the highly compressed and shrill original copy that I have. The processor simply needed some relaxation of some artificial internal limits. It (my copy of Dreamworld) isn't perfect, but is amazingly close to correct!!! ONE ITEM OF NOTE -- some of the copies that I have produced might benefit from a 9kHz or 12kHz lowpass filter (single pole.) In sox, just specifying 'lowpass -1 9k' or 'lowpass -1 12k' might be beneficial. There is ZERO attenuation of the HF in my copies, and so might tend to sound a little 'metallic'. People are often used to a lot of final processing -- perhaps to soften the sound a little or compress. There is no compression in most of my demos except for what was done in the studio. Frankly, some of the studio compression is also obliterated by the 'restoration processor.' Also -- just a few minutes ago (this is an additional note), I added a slightly prettier version of Dreamworld, called Dreamworld-remix. It is slightly different, where the spatial arrangement is a little different and a different EQ that makes it a little more like a Merry-go-round in sound. Also, I added a compressed version, so it sounds a little more typical-ABBA, but still with some 'merry-go-round'sound. Here is the site again: spaces.hightail.com/space/pG4t4ZFnyBJohn |
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