jas
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Post by jas on May 7, 2024 22:24:39 GMT
I can't see the concert going to Australia. It doesn't have the fan base of the UK, or mainland Europe on its doorstep. And why on earth should there be a subsidy and from a State government that is a financial disaster? The show won't be relocating anytime soon - and not Down Under. Its not relocating, if it happens it wil be a second arena
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Post by johnny on May 7, 2024 23:20:10 GMT
Relocating, Second Arena, is Aussieland really viable...and given the problems you mentioned?
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Post by angela on May 8, 2024 6:23:09 GMT
I have mixed feelings about Voyage coming here to Melbourne, as truedogz says our government just had the 'Horror' budget and given they decided not to have the commonwealth games after saying they would have them ended up going pear shaped. The government want to ban gas appliances which means the people who work in the Gas industry will lose their jobs, there is so many things wrong I don't want to get too political as it's not what this forum is about. I just feel even though it would be great it's not a good time at the moment.
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Post by eddie on May 8, 2024 16:15:26 GMT
Angela, I can understand your reservations. I too suffer with crippling anxiety issues. But I overcame my condition somewhat by seeing the show.
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Post by johnny on May 16, 2024 13:14:59 GMT
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Post by johnny on May 24, 2024 23:50:11 GMT
New short video for 2nd Anniversary
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Post by Michal on May 28, 2024 7:20:28 GMT
So I saw the concert twice this week (my fourth and fifth time). On Sunday afternoon I was standing for the first four songs right at the front of the stage. Then I had to leave and I spent thd rest of the concert in the area for the disabled far right to the stage (funny in a way but at least I could judge it from a different angle).
My conclusions:
1. it isn't true that the concert can be enjoyed equally from the different parts of the arena
2. the avatars are not as realistic as they seemed to be when watched from the front of the dance floor - you can clearly tell it is a screen you're watching
3. the 3D effect is somewhat lost when watching it from the side too - the avarars are strangly distorted then
4. the see-through screens are very obtrusive when watching from the side and they ruin the songs, which are performed behind them (Don't Shut Me Down and Thank You For The Music)
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Post by Michal on May 28, 2024 7:24:04 GMT
No setlist change again. I'm starting to believe they're saving it for a different venue to make the Brits and Europeans come to Australia (or wherever it's happening)
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Post by Alan on May 28, 2024 7:53:54 GMT
2. the avatars are not as realistic as they seemed to be when watched from the front of the dance floor - you can clearly tell it is a screen you're watching 4. the see-through screens are very obtrusive when watching from the side and they ruin the songs, which are performed behind them (Don't Shut Me Down and Thank You For The Music) 2. Whilst I wouldn’t say it’s obvious it’s a screen you’re watching, I did pick up on the fact that it’s not as realistic close-range. However, it does vary. At times one of the ‘Tars can look much more like the real thing than it does at others, and I’d apply this to all four of them. They’re not consistent. It’s OK though, it didn’t spoil my enjoyment. 4. Yes, I’d definitely agree with this. I was stood right at the front for the whole show last time I saw it. The curtains or see-through screens were indeed obtrusive. It was frustrating being able to see the ABBATars but not properly.
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Post by Alan on May 28, 2024 8:01:57 GMT
No setlist change again. I'm starting to believe they're saving it for a different venue to make the Brits and Europeans come to Australia (or wherever it's happening) Yes, I’ve thought that for a while. I don’t think a setlist change is as likely as everyone seems to think it is. A sequence for one song probably takes a lot of time (and money) to prepare so it’s not worthwhile to make any changes - at least not until they’ve broken even. I’m not even sure a second venue would be a good enough reason. The costs of setting that up alone would mean they’d need to reduce costs elsewhere, so a setlist change in a country that never got the original version of the show wouldn’t be worthwhile.
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Post by northernlights on May 28, 2024 13:06:40 GMT
2. the avatars are not as realistic as they seemed to be when watched from the front of the dance floor - you can clearly tell it is a screen you're watching 4. the see-through screens are very obtrusive when watching from the side and they ruin the songs, which are performed behind them (Don't Shut Me Down and Thank You For The Music) 2. Whilst I wouldn’t say it’s obvious it’s a screen you’re watching, I did pick up on the fact that it’s not as realistic close-range. However, it does vary. At times one of the ‘Tars can look much more like the real thing than it does at others, and I’d apply this to all four of them. They’re not consistent. It’s OK though, it didn’t spoil my enjoyment. 4. Yes, I’d definitely agree with this. I was stood right at the front for the whole show last time I saw it. The curtains or see-through screens were indeed obtrusive. It was frustrating being able to see the ABBATars but not properly. I hadn’t realised how good the avatars look doing DSMD. I was totally entranced by Agnetha on the screens that come down - this is her most realistic rendering I think.
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Post by skiing55 on May 29, 2024 15:12:46 GMT
This guy on Facebook says they were changing the setlist in April 2024. He said he was told by a staff member that this was happening - I think he had had too much to drink.
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Post by bjorenny on Jun 2, 2024 6:46:13 GMT
I was at Voyage on Friday for the 3rd time and this time I was in area K, so as far to the right of the auditorium as one can get, while the other times I was more looking 'head on' at the stage, and I'm not sure if it was down to my positioning or the completely new band but this time it sounded different - in a good way. The songs' production had little bits I hadn't heard before, and ABBA's vocals were muted for the second chorus of Fernando so that you could hear the audience singing along (has it always done that? If so I didn't notice before). Obviously the backing band didn't stray too far from the original production, but it was nice to have a few different flourishes to keep things fresh and exciting). Strangely, from my different seating position, it was now Björn who looked the least life-like, and Agnetha more-so. Frida was the most life-like of the 4, followed by Benny, and that has always been the case no matter where I was sitting. A thoroughly enjoyable night. On a slightly different note, the day before we saw Mamma Mia in London, and although there are mixed opinions on this forum about Mamma Mia in general, it was excellent - and a million times better than the film!
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Post by Michal on Jun 2, 2024 7:16:27 GMT
bjorenny, haven't you noticed that the 3D effect is somewhat lost, when you were seated so far on the right? I did. As for the sound... I enjoyed it more during my recent visits too, it seemed to me it was not as loud as before. But I was wearing special earplugs anyway on both occasions.
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Post by bjorenny on Jun 2, 2024 8:01:17 GMT
Michal, yes the 3D effect was lost in some parts, but not completely, and not enough to make me never sit in that area again (although I wouldn't deliberately choose it if there were other options available). Regarding the sound, it wasn't quite as loud - the 2nd time I went which was this time last year it was almost too loud for me, and one of the arena staff kept asking on this year's visit if my young children wanted ear defenders. I'm glad they turned the volume down a slight notch. I naively looked around to see if Frida had made a sneaky appearance, then remembered she was in Sweden that day getting her award! 😁
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Post by johnny on Jun 2, 2024 19:03:24 GMT
I never found the concert too loud but others clearly did. It looks like this was noted and volume turned down.
Now with deleting the cartoons and adding extra songs.
I am going again tomorrow.
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Post by johnny on Jun 3, 2024 17:30:54 GMT
Arrived at the ABBA Arena..
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Post by bjorenny on Jun 3, 2024 17:33:54 GMT
Arrived at the ABBA Arena.. Enjoy!
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Post by skiing55 on Jun 5, 2024 14:22:46 GMT
New tickets on sale for abba voyage now until 11th of May 2025
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Post by Tina T on Jun 20, 2024 10:39:38 GMT
Is it a bit concerning that for the rest of June, 62% of shows have plenty of seats available on ticketmaster? I think it is stagnating a bit and they need to do something re: marketing/promo/music
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Post by jas on Jun 27, 2024 4:19:16 GMT
Is it a bit concerning that for the rest of June, 62% of shows have plenty of seats available on ticketmaster? I think it is stagnating a bit and they need to do something re: marketing/promo/music yeah i noticed that, I`m in Australia, and will often just log on and see what tickets are available.... I have no qualms if they want to pack it up and move it here
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Post by johnny on Jun 30, 2024 22:40:59 GMT
New Voyage promo clip. Frida saying ahe has been several times and different experiences.
Certainly I found some differences in My two trips.
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Post by jj on Aug 1, 2024 15:22:55 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that the rumours about a second Voyage venue being opened in Australia were designed only to reignite talk about the existing London show, to keep it relevant and in the news, for free publicity. Because unless they can set it up at a fraction of its original cost, it could not be viable in such a small market as Australia. I think a Taylor Swift virtual concert using the same technology as Voyage would probably be more viable in Australia than an ABBA show, though even given that Swift is a current phenomenon, I doubt even she would manage to fill enough seats for long enough to make a profit for a digital show as costly as Voyage, at least not in a market the size of Australia's, which is only 26 million people, with most of the population over 50 now, and most of these, like me, not being Taylor Swift fans.
Filling a few stadiums of 40,000 fans 20 times (as Swift recently did in Australia) in 5 different Australian cities is not the same thing as filling a static, 6,000 seat arena in one place, Melbourne, which is at least a thousand kilometers away from some of the other cities from which they would count on to attract many audience members to travel to, to come and see.
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Post by johnny on Aug 1, 2024 15:39:21 GMT
You don't say...
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Post by Alan on Aug 1, 2024 15:59:19 GMT
I’ll probably end up eating my words if it happens, but I don’t see a second venue happening anywhere. I still think they’ve bitten off a lot more than they can chew with this and it could still be a very long time before they see any profit. If it was really that easy, why aren’t other acts doing it? I know Kiss have talked about it but so far nothing’s happening. ABBA have the mass appeal that made it more viable, but I still don’t believe set changes and other venues are even remotely in the pipeline. jj mentioned in his review in another topic how, at times, some of the ABBATars looked better than at others. I noticed that too. It would suggest to me that it was worked on over a considerable length of time and that perhaps technology improved enough to make them more realistic. But if that’s the case, why didn’t they go back and re-do some of the sequences where they don’t look as good? Answer: probably not even remotely financially viable to do so. And therefore a setlist change is even more unlikely.
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Post by johnny on Aug 2, 2024 18:06:27 GMT
I’ll probably end up eating my words if it happens, but I don’t see a second venue happening anywhere. I agree. Partly because they still have to recoup costs and make a profit. Partly too because nowhere else would have the fanbase. London isn't just for British fans but fans on the near Continent and of course more International visitors who come to London, many of whom go to a "show". Australia, America or anywhere in Asia is just not viable imo.
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Post by truedogz on Aug 7, 2024 18:23:55 GMT
"Victoria’s bulging debt means the Allan government is unlikely to be able to afford the tens of millions of dollars needed to secure the blockbuster ABBA Voyage production, in a sign Labor may finally be constraining spending in the state. Labor insiders confirmed to The Australian Financial Review that despite enthusiasm for the holographic concert, which is turning over $3 million a week in London, the promoter’s demand for the Victorian government to provide up to a third of the estimated $100 million cost to host it in Melbourne was proving a bridge too far. In May, Treasurer Tim Pallas delivered a $15.2 billion deficit, with net debt growing from $156 billion next year to $188 billion by 2028, as the government refused to press pause on major projects including the $125 billion Suburban Rail Loop and the $20 billion North East Link. ABBA Voyage, which opened in London in May 2022 and features 3D renderings of Agnetha Fältskog, Björn Ulvaeus, Benny Andersson and Anni-Frid Lyngstad in their prime, sold more than 1.5 million tickets in its first 15 months, according to Bloomberg. But the production also required a purpose-built 3000-seat venue – ABBA Arena – in East London, to be built at a cost of £140 million ($270 million). Business chiefs argue the economic boost to Melbourne from the production would be worth the huge outlay. Victorian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Paul Guerra, who met ABBA Voyage chief executive Michael Bolingbroke in London in June, said the event would be a coup for Melbourne. “ABBA Voyage is not just a stage show, it’s a year-long attraction that will bring in visitors from across the world to Melbourne,” Mr Guerra said. “On top of the obvious economic boost, there is a social one in terms of opening long-term job pathways for Victorians, for a period of years, not months. “When we met with the ABBA Voyage team in London as recently as June 2024, their ambition to establish it in Melbourne was very much alive. The state government should do everything in its power to secure this opportunity for Victoria. “It would further reinforce our mantle as the entertainment capital of Australia.“ Labor insiders warn the optics of spending up to host the event as staff at major Melbourne hospitals were told to save money by turning off lights and freeze new hiring, as reported by The Age, would not fare well. “If I was an adviser in the treasurers’ office, I certainly would point that out. As a whole of government you’d need to time it appropriately,” one said. “If [Labor and the promoters] can meet in the middle it will get up, but the asking price is too high right now. Their request is to build a new location because this needs specific technology, which they have in London. It is a huge infrastructure investment they’re asking for.” Victorian tourism, sport, and major events minister Steve Dimopoulos said: “As Australia’s major events capital, we’re always looking at new opportunities and events for our calendar.” Local promoters TEG Dainty declined to comment. Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas and Premier Jacinta Allan have handed down their first state budget together." www.afr.com/politics/cash-strapped-victoria-set-to-reject-blockbuster-abba-show-20240807-p5k09n
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Post by johnny on Aug 20, 2024 20:11:16 GMT
Here's the set list trailer in case you haven't seen it before
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Post by Alan on Aug 21, 2024 11:33:59 GMT
That’s a good trailer! I like to see live footage sync’d with studio recordings. I almost forget that live footage exists for some of those songs as I rarely watch it other than The Movie.
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Post by justabba on Aug 21, 2024 12:58:00 GMT
Herald sun in Australia today.....
Victoria’s Major Events Minister Steve Dimopoulos said he could not comment on updates regarding ABBA Voyage. “I can’t tell you who we’re speaking to, but we’re speaking to the most important people … to put the best calendar of events together,” Mr Dimopoulos said. “The Premier and I will have some announcements about a bunch of stuff in about six weeks. But I can’t say anything.” The concert features digital avatars of ABBA superstars Bjorn Ulvaeus, Agnetha Faltskog, Benny Andersson, and Anni-Frid Lyngstad, depicting the group as they appeared in 1979. ABBA re-recorded their hits for the show. The avatars, created by Industrial Light and Magic, the company behind Star Wars special effects, are accompanied by a 10-piece live band.
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